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02/10/2021 kl. 12:13 #491
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Paybacktime wrote:

#482 Ikke desto mindre har dyr ikke vist sig at vĂŠre et problem. Hvis de bliver det i fremtiden, har vi en ny situation. Men i den situation vi rent faktisk befinder os i, betyder flere vaccinerede mindre risiko for nye og endnu farligere varianter.

Hvad der kommer til at ske pÄ lang sigt er der selvfÞlgelig ingen der ved, men vi kommer givetvis til at have bedre vÊrktÞjer. Det tager bare tid og indtil da er vores bedste vÊrktÞj vaccinen.

Men til det har jeg jo allerede svaret:

mayday-rewire wrote:

Selv hvis vi udelukkede andre pattedyr end mennesker i dette regnestykke, ville det stadig vÊre utopi at tro at samtlige individer pÄ jorden kontinuerligt kan vaccineres sÄ de er fuldt dÊkkede mod Covid-19, og selv hvis vi gjorde ville vi stadig kunne smitte hinanden og skabe nye varianter. Tror du selv du fÄr folk der lider af farligere sygdomme, fattigdom og hungersnÞd, til at tage denne problemstilling seriÞst, nÄr selv folk fra velstillede lande ikke frygter virussen? Hvad er din langsigtede plan? Skal vi nÊgte udrejse? Skal vi stoppe globaliseringen? Skal hele jordens befolkning have 3-4 Ärlige stik?

For at sĂŠtte det lidt i kontekst:

45.4% of the world population has received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
6.27 billion doses have been administered globally, and 27.97 million are now administered each day.
Only 2.3% of people in low-income countries have received at least one dose.

Kilde

PÄ Island, ser man ogsÄ at en stor del af de smittede er fuldt vaccinerede, det er endda dem der oftest bringer smitte med hjem til landet:

COVID-19 in Iceland – Statistics

I Israel:

Around half of the country’s 600 patients presently hospitalized with severe illness have received two doses of the Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) shot

“The majority of these patients received two vaccine doses at least five months ago, are over the age of 60 and also have chronic illnesses known to exacerbate a coronavirus infection.”

Kilde.
SĂžg pĂ„ reuters “Israeli doctors find severe COVID-19 breakthrough cases mostly in older, sicker patients”

Der er flere studier der peger pÄ at naturlig immunitet holder lÊnge:

“As with antibodies, the numbers of different immune cell types varied substantially between individuals. Neither gender nor differences in disease severity could account for this variability. However, 95% of the people had at least 3 out of 5 immune-system components that could recognize SARS-CoV-2 up to 8 months after infection.”

Kilde.
SĂžg pĂ„ nih.gov “Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19”

Folk der blev smittet med SARS-COV i 2003, har fortsat beskyttelse 17 Ă„r efter, selv mod dele af SARS-COV-2 (Covid-19):

“we showed that patients (n = 23) who recovered from SARS (the disease associated with SARS-CoV infection) possess long-lasting memory T cells that are reactive to the N protein of SARS-CoV 17 years after the outbreak of SARS in 2003; these T cells displayed robust cross-reactivity to the N protein of SARS-CoV-2”

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“Notably, we detected SARS-CoV-2-specific IFNÎł responses in 19 out of 37 unexposed donors”.

Kilde:
SĂžg pĂ„ nature.com “SARS-CoV-2-specific T cell immunity in cases of COVID-19 and SARS, and uninfected controls”

Edit: Der er Äbenbart er loft pÄ hvor mange links man mÄ tilfÞje til et indlÊg, derfor den lidt besvÊrlige kildeangivelse.

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